Gold & Silver Forum

Gold & Silver Forum (http://goldismoney.info/forums/index.php)
-   Firearms (http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159)
-   -   Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act� (http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=376031)

stacks 05-18-2009 10:46 AM

Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�

According to Obama�s Chief of Staff, if your name appears on the TSA�s no-fly list you are a terrorist without Second Amendment rights.

Kurt Nimmo
InfoWars.com
May 17, 2009

In 2007, then Democrat member of the United States House of Representatives, Rahm Emanuel, told the gathered at the annual Stand Up For a Safe America event sponsored by the Brady Center that if your name is on the terrorist no fly list you will not be allowed to own a gun.

In 2007, according to the Inspector General of the FBI-administered Terrorist Screening Center, there were well over 700,000 names on the no-fly database and the list was growing at an astronomical rate of 20,000 records per month. That means the list now contains more than a million people. Senator Ted Kennedy, Rep. John Lewis, and former Senator Ted Steven�s wife, Catherine Stevens are on the list.

According to Rahm Emanuel, now Obama�s Chief of Staff, every last one of them are terrorists who will have their Second Amendment right to own a firearm stripped.

Rahm Emanuel wasn�t blowing smoke. His proposal to rob more than a million Americans of their Second Amendment right to own firearms may soon become law if a notorious gun-grabber has her way.

On May 13, Democrat Rep. Carolyn McCarthy introduced The No Fly, No Buy Act (H.R. 2401), a bill that will merge the TSA�s no-fly list with the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), a point-of-sale system for determining eligibility to purchase a firearm in the United States, Guam, and Puerto Rico. It was created in November of 1993 when the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 (Brady Act), Public Law 103-159, was signed into law. Permanent provisions of the Brady Act went into effect on November 30, 1998, and required the U.S. Attorney General to establish NICS.

�For far too long, the �terror gap� has left a wide open loophole in our nation�s gun safety laws that could allow terrorist to acquire guns the same way any law abiding citizen can,� McCarthy declared as she introduced her bill. McCarthy and Congressman Steve Israel, flanked by law enforcement officials, stressed �the importance of keeping guns out of the hands of people that are known or suspected terrorists,� according to the Floral Park Dispatch. �For far too long, the �terror gap� has left a wide open loophole in our nation�s gun safety laws that could allow terrorists to acquire guns the same way any law abiding citizen can. The No Fly, No Buy Act uses existing TSA data to update the NICS system with the names of known or suspected terrorists to disqualify them from passing the Brady Background Check. This is a common sense gun bill that will prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands,� McCarthy said.

The Department of Homeland Security now considers veterans, advocates of the Second Amendment, and states� rights activists as terrorists.

�Since September 11, 2001, Congress has passed many laws to improve homeland security,� the Floral Park Dispatch continues. �Yet, this loophole remains open. If someone is denied the chance to board an airplane because of suspected ties to terrorists, then they should also be denied the opportunity to purchase a gun. Individuals with ties to terrorists have bought guns in the past and used them to kill Americans.�

The language of H.R. 2401 reads as follows: �To increase public safety and reduce the threat to domestic security by including persons who may be prevented from boarding an aircraft in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and for other purposes,� according to the Open Congress website. Govtrack.us reports that the bill was referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

It does not take a lot of imagination to speculate what �other purposes� will ultimately mean.



Heimdhal 05-18-2009 10:51 AM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Id like to say Im suprised, but Im not.

Id like to say this was unexpected, but it is not.

Id like to say many things, but the time for gentle words is drawing to close.

Abouthadit 05-18-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Gee, I wonder if the NRA will suck up to support this piece of crap legislation like they did HR2640/S2084, the veteran's disarmament bill???

Silver Shield 05-18-2009 11:24 AM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Incrementalism....

Worked for decades...

JJ_ 05-18-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1727456)
Id like to say Im suprised, but Im not.

Id like to say this was unexpected, but it is not.

Id like to say many things, but the time for gentle words is drawing to close.

+1
Nice Heim....

Twisted Avatar 05-18-2009 03:16 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
1 Attachment(s)
TAKE ACTION NOW.

OR

TAKE CHANCES LATER.


YOUR CHOICE.

Heimdhal 05-18-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
TA, I Hope you have all the arsenal youll need...something tells me that there are big bold letters at the top of the No Fly list saying

TWISTED AVATAR


:P

Twisted Avatar 05-18-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1727780)
TA, I Hope you have all the arsenal youll need...something tells me that there are big bold letters at the top of the No Fly list saying

TWISTED AVATAR



:P

Always adding to stash H

As of recent though I got a serious blade fixation. Benchmade and Cold Steele knives are absolutely beautiful.

A Silver hair Lady told me something recently I wont forget:

The Gun is great .......But The Knife is Greater..... outside of the million and one uses there is a very redeeming quality about a knife.

You can run out of bullets ......... but you can NEVER run out of blade.

SilverNuts@Bolts 05-18-2009 04:47 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
,,,just like the alcohol prohibition, the underground economy will thrive, while a lot of resources will be wasted, on trying to enforce idiot-laws.

MrCapitalism 05-18-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverNuts@Bolts (Post 1727854)
,,,just like the alcohol prohibition, the underground economy will thrive, while a lot of resources will be wasted, on trying to enforce idiot-laws.

I can't wait. I can just see the day when the DHS captures a truckload of AK-47's crossing the Mexican boarder going NORTH.

:signs1:

bwelkk 05-18-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1727804)

The Gun is great .......But The Knife is Greater.....

As a combat implement, that's just goddam silly to say.

Heimdhal 05-18-2009 05:54 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Remember, TA...

Just because you've run out of bullets....doesnt mean the other guy has.

morganchaser 05-18-2009 06:22 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bwelkk (Post 1727933)
As a combat implement, that's just goddam silly to say.

I agree, although knife fanboys are to gun fanboys, as gun fanboys are to explosives fanboys.

You haven't tasted the right to bear arms until you've tasted instant cold pack.

TechGuy 05-18-2009 08:41 PM

Re: Gun-grabber Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Introduces �No Fly, No Buy Act�
 
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2401

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]hide cosponsors
Cosponsors [as of 2009-05-15]
Rep. Steve Israel [D-NY]
Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date. Why?

Text:
Full TextStatus:
http://www.govtrack.us/media/checkmark.gifIntroducedMay 13, 2009http://www.govtrack.us/media/checkmark.gifReferred to CommitteeView Committee Assignmentshttp://www.govtrack.us/media/box.gifReported by Committee...http://www.govtrack.us/media/box.gifVoted on in House...http://www.govtrack.us/media/box.gifVoted on in Senate...http://www.govtrack.us/media/box.gifSigned by President...


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright = None use it and Link to GIM